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Steve Burt's avatar

There are incredible benefits to your ReLeader journey if you will simply slow down and take the time to care for people who are trapped in the rubble of the collapse.

While I must confirm to the pattern of a large insurance company in Norwich, I am realising that My commander in chief is Jesus, being a re leader is redefine my true goals In Christ.... as for promotion or recognition I have all I need in Christ!!

Keep Posting Pastor Jon this is changing me and I hope and pray that my work of employment will see this too...

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Dr. Jon Chasteen's avatar

That's so great Steve. Thanks for sharing. I'm so honored that its blessing you!

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Dorinda Kurtz's avatar

Not everyone’s Journey is the same for the wounded. Not everyone can go thru the same process for the wounded. But when the wounded is taken thru a slow process and feel heard, then they become new leaders from the rumble!! Your past is a testimony!! As I’m walking thru this with some other women, I find this very thought provoking. Are we doing the same thing over and over again? Is it really working, the way it has been laid out for many many years? How do you approach a leader and express new ideas to them without hurting them? As leaders, we should be able to identify what our people need, adjust to where they are, and make plans to help them where they are in a way that works for them, not just this is how we do it and this is how it needs to be done!! Many times, I have found that yes we need to do it that way, but it’s not right, at the time it’s suppose to be presented. Do you risk loosing the people to the process, or do you slow the process for the people? It’s both!!! And good leaders, know when the process is right, and the people will be ready for the next step in the process!!

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Dr. Jon Chasteen's avatar

Very well said Dorinda.

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Rachel Maggert's avatar

I'm just thinking through some things for myself more than anything else here....

As I think more about the differences in the medical world verses the spiritual world, there are some huge differences. In the medical world, the temptation is to want to play god (with a little g) we use our humsn wisdom to diagnose an issue, instead of praying that the Holy Spirit convict and "diagnose" the deeper roots of an issue. For each diagnosis, we humans have a formula that is suppose to "fix" the person. But a relationship with Jesus is not quite as scientific as a prescription drug, He us a PERSON to be worshipped. Our relationship doesn't have a half-life based off the average person's metabolism. Medical insurance demands a time-line based from the diagnosis and treatment plan. In the spiritual realm, that is shutting the Holy Spirit out of the equation completely.

Maybe a better way is to pray with an open hand that the Holy Spirit places the hunger and thirst into a person and guides them on their journey in His timing as we come along side and support them as in Colossians 3:16 & Ephesians 5:19. and just being their friend and loving them. Otherwise, we are encroaching upon God's place in their lives, which is not exactly a position I, personally, wish to be in.

I cannot be someone else's savior. Otherwise, they get their eyes on the wrong person and I can become prideful, which is very detrimental to both parties involved. Thinking I did it instead of giving God all the glory.

If my job description is based from Colossians 3:16 & Ephesians 5:19, I can take my hands off and let God be God, resulting in much less frustration for everyone and more success.

Just some musings....

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Rachel Maggert's avatar

The New Testament was built on prayer:

Acts 1:14

Acts 2:1, 42

Acts 4:24, 31

Acts 12:5, 12

Acts 13:3

Acts 16:25

...just to name a few of many...

Calling out to Jesus is our foundation to building a relationship with Him.

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Rachel Maggert's avatar

I'm LOVING that quote that Pastor is using at the beginning of each sermon during this "promises" season right now!! It is so, so true. The one from Chatkes Spurgeon....

If there needs to be a diagnosis, treatment plan, etc., this is it!!

https://www.spurgeon.org/resource-library/sermons/obtaining-promises/#flipbook/

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Rachel Maggert's avatar

As I continue this train of thinking, I am coming to a deeper understanding of the concept of surrender, particularly through prayer. Prayer is vital, it is the bedrock, the foundation to discipling other believers. Because it is ONLY through our dependence upon the Holy Spirit that anything at all can happen!

The Holy Spirit is the one that draws people to Christ, the Holy Spirit is the one that convicts of sin, the Holy Spirit is the one that creates our hunger and thirst for righteousness, the Holy Spirit the one that opens our understanding of the Word of God, the Holy Spirit is the one changes our hearts, the Holy Spirit is the one who shows us how to walk as Jesus walked.....

We can do absolutely nothing without Him, nor can whomever we are trying to disciple.

As we humble ourselves and pray and acknowledge that we are at the mercy of the Trinity, in complete surrender and ask for the Holy Spirit to show us how to live out the Beatitudes, maybe that is the best way for us "fixers" to "fix" people is to start and finish with a deep surrendered prayer.

I say all this, more to myself than to anyone else because I desperately fight against my inclinations to "FIX" everything around me, in my timing and in my way.... when my friends voice a need, a desire, and problem,... I got the solurion....

Maybe a better way for me to learn is to surrender in prayer, rather than pop off with my mouth in advise.

I cannot speak for other countries, but I sincerely believe that here in America anyway, many of us are tempted to under rate the criticalness of deep, intercessory prayer as a body of believers.

For the New Testament believers, that was their first response to problems. Their first aide kit, was prayer, prayer, and prayer.

Just thinking out loud, is all....

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Rachel Maggert's avatar

Thank you for the article. Very thought provoking!

I think that this is one of those "meals" that needs to simmer on low in the crockpot all day!!

There are so many different perspectives to look at this scenario from! Am I the hospital worker? The ambulance attendant? The rescuer? A bystander? Or, maybe one of the wounded?

This could apply as a parent, a neighbor, a friend, a coworker?

Am I under a ReLeader that is trying to "rescue" an organization? Or am I that person that others are looking to for rescue? Or am I both, simultaneously?

Or,... am i all of the above in different roles of my life?

Food for thought!

I LOVE a good, stimulating conversation!!!! One that makes me think about things that I've never really examined before. Sometimes we are too close to the trees to see the forest. When we've had time to step back from situations in our lives, we see it from an entirely different perspective!!

Thank you again, Pastor!!!

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Dr. Jon Chasteen's avatar

You’re going deep quick! I love it! Simmer for days on low then!! 😂😂

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